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Did I royally mess up by buying this?

BobM

New Member
Aug 24, 2024
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Truck Year
2014
Been a Cummins and Powerstroke guy for over 50 years(big cummins-855c.i. or more) last week I bought a 2014 EcoDiesel. Beautiful truck, reasonable price( I think). Sure wish I had read some of these horror stories on the forum and now scared to even start it up, much less drive it!
It is deleted, and apparently some sort of aftermarket exhaust system. I do not know exactly what was deleted, or what was blocked off. DEF gauge is all the way to the left, check engine light is on.
Does deleting cause check engine light to be on?
 

1shadowsabre

Well-Known Member
Oct 18, 2015
849
337
Truck Year
2015
You really need to find out if it has been tuned to accommodate the delete. If not, you are in trouble. If you got it from a dealer they should not have been allowed to sell it w/o functioning emissions.
 

BobM

New Member
Aug 24, 2024
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Truck Year
2014
It did come from a dealer, and they are the one that told me it was deleted.
 

TWFJR

New Member
Feb 8, 2024
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Truck Year
2022
Been a Cummins and Powerstroke guy for over 50 years(big cummins-855c.i. or more) last week I bought a 2014 EcoDiesel. Beautiful truck, reasonable price( I think). Sure wish I had read some of these horror stories on the forum and now scared to even start it up, much less drive it!
It is deleted, and apparently some sort of aftermarket exhaust system. I do not know exactly what was deleted, or what was blocked off. DEF gauge is all the way to the left, check engine light is on.
Does deleting cause check engine light to be on?
Dripping oil from timing chain cover. It may be the crank shaft seal. If it is, in my estimation, your crankshaft is off balance or worn and eventually, it will blow your engine. In my estimation, there is no reason for the seal to go bad unless it is of poor quality or, the crankshaft is wobbling. There is a place in Texas that is rebuilding the Eco Diesel's engine with a newly manufactured crankshaft. You cannot buy a Mopar crankshaft. There are no crankshafts available. The engine is discontinued. I suspect that any used Eco Diesel will come at a great price. A rebuilt engine, as mentioned above, would cost $8500 (as of the last time I checked) and installation will cost you more. The rebuild will give you better mileage and more horsepower.

I am dealing with a seal that was replaced and service just returned my truck after, almost 3 weeks. They said that it had to do with gasket failures. This morning, after one day back in my possession, I have a major engine leak. I will have to wait for Monday to call in the leak.

I have a lemon law lawyer taking my case. The truch has 35,000 miles left on the warranty and 3 years as well.

We love the truck. It is a 2022 Limited Eco Diesel with just 65,000 miles on it.
 

1shadowsabre

Well-Known Member
Oct 18, 2015
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Truck Year
2015
It did come from a dealer, and they are the one that told me it was deleted.
Was it a RAM dealer? Not sure of the laws in KY but in many places it is against the law to sell emissions modified vehicles.
If it is deleted and doesn't have an engine tune you will have nothing but engine code after engine code.
 

TC Diesel

Well-Known Member
Jul 14, 2016
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708
Truck Year
2015
I don't know the laws in KY, In MN a state Authorized License Dealer CANNOT legally sell any vehicle that does NOT comply with COC (Certificate of Compliance) Bad faith law won't apply because they told YOU it was deleted. VM 3.0 are Hero to Zero Motor.
 

1shadowsabre

Well-Known Member
Oct 18, 2015
849
337
Truck Year
2015
Sounds kind of nerve wracking. Here are 4 options, there may be more!
1. Take the truck back and tell the dealer you don't want it since it was sold with illegally modified emissions.
2. Check out the EOC website and contact them. They may be able to give information regarding a tune that is compatible with your trucks modifications.
3. Get an engine trouble code reader and diagnose those check engine notifications to see if they are catastrophic or nuisance
4. Drive it and see what happens
 

BobM

New Member
Aug 24, 2024
4
0
Truck Year
2014
I don't know the laws in KY, In MN a state Authorized License Dealer CANNOT legally sell any vehicle that does NOT comply with COC (Certificate of Compliance) Bad faith law won't apply because they told YOU it was deleted. VM 3.0 are Hero to Zero Motor.
I wasn’t told until after I had signed the paperwork
 
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