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[bob1340]

So in the state of Kalifornia you have to smog check any diesel truck under 14000 gvw 1968 and newer every 2 years. I took my 2018 in today. Passed smog no issue but the State of CA DMV isn't renewing the tags unless I have the VB1C recall complied with per recall requirements at the dealer. I haven't called today yet, but just a couple weeks ago they still (after 2 years) don't have the parts.

Anyone else have to deal with this yet?

 

[bob1340]

BTW, the local dealer, which is a huge volume dealership, said they can get the recall parts to do one vehicle a week. There are 120 in front of me. I called a small dealership (where I bought the truck) who can get me in 6/3. Its a day and a half job. So we take 2 vehicles up, drive 1 home, then to pick up the truck it's drive 1 up and 2 home. Comes out to about 560 miles on my vehicles. LOL
It ticks me off that Chrysler/RAM/FCA/DODGE whatever they are called these days took so long to come up with a fix and are so slow in building the parts to do the fix. They are still producing lots of cars to sell but care crap about us with the recall.

Just interested, does any other state put a hold on registration due to the recall?

 

[Ironcity]

BTW, the local dealer, which is a huge volume dealership, said they can get the recall parts to do one vehicle a week. There are 120 in front of me. I called a small dealership (where I bought the truck) who can get me in 6/3. Its a day and a half job. So we take 2 vehicles up, drive 1 home, then to pick up the truck it's drive 1 up and 2 home. Comes out to about 560 miles on my vehicles. LOL
It ticks me off that Chrysler/RAM/FCA/DODGE whatever they are called these days took so long to come up with a fix and are so slow in building the parts to do the fix. They are still producing lots of cars to sell but care crap about us with the recall.

Just interested, does any other state put a hold on registration due to the recall?

Out of curiosity, I tried to look up a VB1C recall and could not find it. What is this recall for?

 

[bob1340]

Out of curiosity, I tried to look up a VB1C recall and could not find it. What is this recall for?

I think the C is for California, not sure. The VB1 recall is the EGR cooler leak problem. Being the EGR system is part of the emission control California won't issue new tags until a dealer replaces it. The large local dealer told me I'd be best to try getting it done at smaller dealers as parts are scarce. This dealership serves an area of about 400K people. The service manager said they average 1 EGR job a week due to lack of parts. Currently there are 120 people on a waiting list. If supply stays the same that is up to a 2 year wait
BTW, the state never sent a notice on this. They just put a block on your registration at renewal time. My truck passed the emissions test with flying colors but the state won't renew my registration till I get the recall fixed. I asked the service manager if they could just check it and sign off on it if it's not leaking. She said no, in commiefornia all Ecodiesels will have the EGR replaced.

 

[bob1340]

The procedure.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/RCRIT-19V757-8953.pdf

 

[Ironcity]

I think the C is for California, not sure. The VB1 recall is the EGR cooler leak problem. Being the EGR system is part of the emission control California won't issue new tags until a dealer replaces it. The large local dealer told me I'd be best to try getting it done at smaller dealers as parts are scarce. This dealership serves an area of about 400K people. The service manager said they average 1 EGR job a week due to lack of parts. Currently there are 120 people on a waiting list. If supply stays the same that is up to a 2 year wait
BTW, the state never sent a notice on this. They just put a block on your registration at renewal time. My truck passed the emissions test with flying colors but the state won't renew my registration till I get the recall fixed. I asked the service manager if they could just check it and sign off on it if it's not leaking. She said no, in commiefornia all Ecodiesels will have the EGR replaced.

I see. I also see at the bottom of the recall paper where it talks about CA. I did have this done a while ago now. I just couldn’t find it on google and think you are correct about the C.
My thought is that Ram knows the CA laws. You bought their product and cannot use it now not because of any faults of your doing, but by Rams inability to supply you the necessary part. I would suggest taking this issue directly to FCA headquarters demanding they supply the part immediately or lend you a loaner truck of zero charge until yours is fixed. Sorry you have to go through all of this and good luck to you.
Also, I wonder if there aren’t any used updated coolers that may be found in a junkyard that the dealer could use to perform the update. I’m not even sure that is a possibility, but may be worth mentioning. I’d try the FCA route first

 

[bob1340]

I see. I also see at the bottom of the recall paper where it talks about CA. I did have this done a while ago now. I just couldn’t find it on google and think you are correct about the C.
My thought is that Ram knows the CA laws. You bought their product and cannot use it now not because of any faults of your doing, but by Rams inability to supply you the necessary part. I would suggest taking this issue directly to FCA headquarters demanding they supply the part immediately or lend you a loaner truck of zero charge until yours is fixed. Sorry you have to go through all of this and good luck to you.
Also, I wonder if there aren’t any used updated coolers that may be found in a junkyard that the dealer could use to perform the update. I’m not even sure that is a possibility, but may be worth mentioning. I’d try the FCA route first

Correct. I'm going to ask the small dealer I have an appointment with 6/3 if I can get a loaner. Being the job is a day and a half I doubt that will happen. I also will ask if they have the proper documentation that I can take to DMV and stand in line for hours to get this taken care off. Apparently (from reading on Audi forums) there is a orange sheet that is needed to comply. LOL, lots of Audi owners had a similar recall notice involving emissions controls taken care of sometime ago but DMV still has a hold on them renewing as they don't have the orange sheet!

 

[John Jensen]

I'm confused. The VB1 doesn't include 2018s. The dealer should know it doesn't involve 2018s. Why is the dealer implying they'll do it but don't have the parts? Why is Califunny including 2018s? Doesn't make sense.

The VO8-VA7 AEM Emissions recall documentation said that Califunny would not register vehicles until they got the recall. That they would begin when the AEM recall closed, which I believe is now closed. There were no like comments associated with the VB1 recall.

 

[bob1340]

I'm confused. The VB1 doesn't include 2018s. The dealer should know it doesn't involve 2018s. Why is the dealer implying they'll do it but don't have the parts? Why is Califunny including 2018s? Doesn't make sense.

The VO8-VA7 AEM Emissions recall documentation said that Califunny would not register vehicles until they got the recall. That they would begin when the AEM recall closed, which I believe is now closed. There were no like comments associated with the VB1 recall.

Definitely got the recall well over a year ago. LOL. I got 5-6 notices, like they are urgent for you to get it fixed but provide no fix. No parts. The 2017-2018 recall fix is different than the early models. The early models had parts available just about a year ago. The 2017-2018 parts are just coming available now, and slowly. I'm sure this will turn into a nightmare for some folks.

 

[John Jensen]

Definitely got the recall well over a year ago. LOL. I got 5-6 notices, like they are urgent for you to get it fixed but provide no fix. No parts. The 2017-2018 recall fix is different than the early models. The early models had parts available just about a year ago. The 2017-2018 parts are just coming available now, and slowly. I'm sure this will turn into a nightmare for some folks.

Bummer!

Have never seen an update about VB1 including 2017-18s. Thanks for clearing that up.
You are right, it's going to be a nightmare. You would think they would give you a provisional registration. What happens when you get cited for no current registration or sticker?

 

[bob1340]

Interest enough I tried to pay my tags online again today and they accepted the payment. I'll still take the truck in for the recall next week.

 

[Ronald Doupe]

So in the state of Kalifornia you have to smog check any diesel truck under 14000 gvw 1968 and newer every 2 years. I took my 2018 in today. Passed smog no issue but the State of CA DMV isn't renewing the tags unless I have the VB1C recall complied with per recall requirements at the dealer. I haven't called today yet, but just a couple weeks ago they still (after 2 years) don't have the parts.

Anyone else have to deal with this yet?

There we no Diesel pickups in 1968, the rule is 1998 and newer, big deal, same for a gas car, has anyone been denied a renewal because of the failure to have the part changed?, I doubt it

 

[bob1340]

There we no Diesel pickups in 1968, the rule is 1998 and newer, big deal, same for a gas car, has anyone been denied a renewal because of the failure to have the part changed?, I doubt it

LOL, yes, 1997 and older. Typo

I do think there were a number of people with AUDI's last year that could not get tags. Up until last week I could not renew my truck, smog or no smog. Something changed.

 

[Patrick.V]

There we no Diesel pickups in 1968, the rule is 1998 and newer, big deal, same for a gas car, has anyone been denied a renewal because of the failure to have the part changed?, I doubt it

Well one big deal is California gives a 5 year new car exemption for gas powered vehicles before first smog check, diesel is at the 2 year old mark, the reason? Morons deleting then rolling coal and bragging about it. Smog on even a 1500 are close to 100 bucks

 

[John Jensen]

Well one big deal is California gives a 5 year new car exemption for gas powered vehicles before first smog check, diesel is at the 2 year old mark, the reason? Morons deleting then rolling coal and bragging about it. Smog on even a 1500 are close to 100 bucks

Help me out. You say the diesel 2 year mark is because of deleters. Deleters have not been able to get registered in any smog zip code for several years. So they don't exist (legally). What makes you say that?

 

[Patrick.V]

Help me out. You say the diesel 2 year mark is because of deleters. Deleters have not been able to get registered in any smog zip code for several years. So they don't exist (legally). What makes you say that?

your word "legally" is the key word, I did a little research when I had to smog my 2 year old truck in 2020, it was two fold, the deleters posting themselves "rolling coal" and also the and the manufactures hanky pankey, with the software. I realize many, most actually, of the people deleting smog equipment don't live in areas that need to be smogged on a regular basis. It just sucks for those of us living in this socialist state that we are not afforded the same courtesy of waiting until the 5th year for a smog test.

 

[John Jensen]

The only courtesy you'll get from our politicians is when they smile and shake your hand because you've either donated or voted their way.

 

[Polymers]

$7 per year in Texas. They don't even open the hood! As long as the lights and blinkers work and no visible leaks you are good to go.

 

[Htracks]

There we no Diesel pickups in 1968, the rule is 1998 and newer, big deal, same for a gas car, has anyone been denied a renewal because of the failure to have the part changed?, I doubt it

Interest enough I tried to pay my tags online again today and they accepted the payment. I'll still take the truck in for the recall next week.

I’m in CA also, the DMV required the repair. I recommend doing everything online, but be aware they’ll take your money but will withhold registration until they get a physical orange slip (I made a color copy and sent the original). I had already emailed a copy of the slip and paid the fees, then received a notification stating they needed the orange slip! No provisional offered. Never mind about doing it online, just realized better to go in! I was already deep into the online process!

 

[Patrick.V]

I’m in CA also, the DMV required the repair. I recommend doing everything online, but be aware they’ll take your money but will withhold registration until they get a physical orange slip (I made a color copy and sent the original). I had already emailed a copy of the slip and paid the fees, then received a notification stating they needed the orange slip! No provisional offered. Never mind about doing it online, just realized better to go in! I was already deep into the online process!

I had my repairs made 15 months ago, I contacted the dealership and they mailed it to me, I just received the certificate, but they neglected to fill in the license number, hopefully AAA will accept it.