Ecodiesel longevity

[CB90]

So I am thinking of buying an ecodiesel and have found two decent deals on a 2014 SLT and a 2015 Big Horn. One has 118,000 and the other 112,000. Should I be concerned about the mileage? I heard that the ecodiesel has had some issues. I love the idea of the gas mileage and towing but just want to make sure before before I get rid of my F150

 

[John]

There have been several with bottom end failures. I'll say you have about a 95% chance of getting a good one that will go well over 200,000 miles.

 

[carlhenry]

WELCOME they have their problems but no more than others

 

[John]

WELCOME they have their problems but no more than others

Strongly disagree. I like my truck and plan on keeping it, but the catastrophic engine failures are at least 10X greater than industry standards. A 5% failure rate is unheard of in the auto industry. I'm sticking with having a 95% chance of getting a good one.

 

[carlhenry]

take it easy on the skinny pedal till it is completely warmed up and u will have less problems

 

[cs in Alabama]

Somewhere between 6 to 7% of the 3.0 engines die from the lower end bearings failing. Its really inexcusable for a major manufacturer to have this kind of a problem. Up to the 100k mile warranty, FCA has been responsible and replaced the engines. You are looking at buying one over 100k so I recommend you buy an extended warranty just for the powertrain.

I recommend you plan on getting an engine tune ($750.00) to keep from having trouble caused by the EGR valve.

If given a choice I am going with the 2015 over the 2014. As the years progressed, the engine problems get better. I have a 2015 and couldn't be happier.

 

[John]

take it easy on the skinny pedal till it is completely warmed up and u will have less problems

There's no way to prevent it if it's a bad one. I wish it was that easy.

 

[John]

Somewhere between 6 to 7% of the 3.0 engines die from the lower end bearings failing. Its really inexcusable for a major manufacturer to have this kind of a problem. Up to the 100k mile warranty, FCA has been responsible and replaced the engines. You are looking at buying one over 100k so I recommend you buy an extended warranty just for the powertrain.

I recommend you plan on getting an engine tune ($750.00) to keep from having trouble caused by the EGR valve.

If given a choice I am going with the 2015 over the 2014. As the years progressed, the engine problems get better. I have a 2015 and couldn't be happier.

I was being a little more optimistic Lol. You may very well be more accurate than me.

 

[TC Diesel]

CB90, 1st you will get great gas Mileage because it won't run very far on Gas, On a more serious note if your considering Diesel, Drop the gas mileage Language and use fuel or Diesel Mileage...

 

[BoostN]

Ah! TC, we know what he means!

 

[TC Diesel]

I know Boost, its a really costly mistake if it happens, I do have the OP best interest at heart .

 

[CB90]

CB90, 1st you will get great gas Mileage because it won't run very far on Gas, On a more serious note if your considering Diesel, Drop the gas mileage Language and use fuel or Diesel Mileage...

Alright guy, I have had diesels before and know not to put gas in a diesel. I’m pretty sure 99% of every truck owner knows that when someone says gas mileage that they mean MPG. It may be useful if you actually keep to the question that I asked as I was just looking for the longevity of the ecodiesel

 

[TC Diesel]

I was keeping on Topic in a humorous way, Your longevity will be affected on gas, I'm out.

 

[cs in Alabama]

I am inwardly terrified every time my wife takes the truck for a long trip. In my mind's eye I see that yellow handle hanging out of my truck!

 

[Ronald Doupe]

Somewhere between 6 to 7% of the 3.0 engines die from the lower end bearings failing. Its really inexcusable for a major manufacturer to have this kind of a problem. Up to the 100k mile warranty, FCA has been responsible and replaced the engines. You are looking at buying one over 100k so I recommend you buy an extended warranty just for the powertrain.

I recommend you plan on getting an engine tune ($750.00) to keep from having trouble caused by the EGR valve.

If given a choice I am going with the 2015 over the 2014. As the years progressed, the engine problems get better. I have a 2015 and couldn't be happier.

Just curious where did the 6-7% failure rate come from?

 

[cs in Alabama]

It comes from the FCA supply system. It showed there was a demand level of 19 engines per week or 1000 replacement engines per year. There were 104k eco engines made with no new engines entering service. Assuming this went on for 7 years - 7% of engines would be replaced at that demand level.

here is the link. The thread is very interesting.
https://www.ecodieselram.com/forum/...ent-reveals-current-engine-failure-rate.1415/

 

[John]

And there's the internal email stating 215 per month at one point in time.

 

[Ronald Doupe]

It comes from the FCA supply system. It showed there was a demand level of 19 engines per week or 1000 replacement engines per year. There were 104k eco engines made with no new engines entering service. Assuming this went on for 7 years - 7% of engines would be replaced at that demand level.

here is the link. The thread is very interesting.
https://www.ecodieselram.com/forum/...ent-reveals-current-engine-failure-rate.1415/

I don't see what how many per week has much to do with anything, how many 1500 Rams with the Eco have be produced since 2014?, maybe 120000?, 7% failure on the total sold would be over 8000 engines, have 8000 trucks had engine replacement?, I don't think so

 

[TC Diesel]

So when FCA stop production in 2016 for 15 months and the 30-65 Per Week Engines demand Had NO impact.

The Industry Standard is 1 Per 1000 Most manufactures would have halted production and quarantine any vehicle until problem found and corrections made, Not So over in Europe.... FCA/VM just kept shipping the junk to the American Buyer that's stupid enough to buy it.

Heck over the Weekend 2 more report 2018 Same reported failures. So its 6 years of the same type of failure.

 

[cs in Alabama]

I don't see what how many per week has much to do with anything, how many 1500 Rams with the Eco have be produced since 2014?, maybe 120000?, 7% failure on the total sold would be over 8000 engines, have 8000 trucks had engine replacement?, I don't think so

I think 7,000 engines have been replaced without a doubt. A higher number would not surprise me. I think the failure numbers are declining, especially the 2018 year. But they are still failing. I have a lot of hope for the 2020 engine. If nothing else I need better parts for when I do a rebuild.