Failed High Pressure Fuel Pump(HPFP) 2019 Classic Eco Diesel

[jwcotting]

The HPFP on my 2019 Classic Ram failed at 9400 miles. Dodge will be replacing the HPFP, fuel rails and the injectors.
The HPFP has been back ordered for a month and is now expected in 2 more weeks.
In no particular order here are my comments and concerns;
1. The dealer is awaiting delivery of a total of 4 HPFPs. Is it a generic problem with the HPFP?
2. They refuse to pull the heads to determine if any particulate matter from the destroyed HPFP made it past the injectors
3. The dealer does not have any loaners and Chrysler will only offer $40 a day towards a rental car

I am thinking of asking for a warranty on the engine as long as I own the truck.

Any comments/suggestions are welcomed
Jim

 

[John Jensen]

I believe your 2019 has the CP4.2 or maybe the earlier the CP4 pump. They are known to fail, especially when poor grade (low lubricity) fuel is used or water in the fuel. The failure rate has been quite low in the Ecodiesels and higher in the Cummins. In fact, yours is the first one I've seen posted.

$40.00 a usual;ly gets a decent rental. I'm surprised they offer that much. But then I read where Covid has caused the rentals to skyrocket. Like 1300.00 a day in Hawaii because they sold all their stock {not being used) during Covid.

I don't think you'll get anywhere with your warranty idea.

Pulling the heads is a debatable subject that maybe someone will chime in on as I have no opinion.
You definitely need your request and their denial documented in their system and on your invoice. That would be needed down the line should you have engine problems and suspect debris from the pump failure is the cause.

Good luck - keep us informed

 

[jwcotting]

I believe your 2019 has the CP4.2 or maybe the earlier the CP4 pump. They are known to fail, especially when poor grade (low lubricity) fuel is used or water in the fuel. The failure rate has been quite low in the Ecodiesels and higher in the Cummins. In fact, yours is the first one I've seen posted.

$40.00 a usual;ly gets a decent rental. I'm surprised they offer that much. But then I read where Covid has caused the rentals to skyrocket. Like 1300.00 a day in Hawaii because they sold all their stock {not being used) during Covid.

I don't think you'll get anywhere with your warranty idea.

Pulling the heads is a debatable subject that maybe someone will chime in on as I have no opinion.
You definitely need your request and their denial documented in their system and on your invoice. That would be needed down the line should you have engine problems and suspect debris from the pump failure is the cause.

Good luck - keep us informed

Please, am i understanding the eco and cummins uses the same fuel pump?
Isn't it uncommon that one dealer would be awaiting 4 of the same fuel pump?
many thanks for your advice/comments
Jim

 

[John Jensen]

Please, am i understanding the eco and cummins uses the same fuel pump?
Yes. I believe the higher pressures required of the 2019-20 Cummins is what's causing more failures on the Cummins. They changed back to the CP3 pump in the 2021 models.

Isn't it uncommon that one dealer would be awaiting 4 of the same fuel pump? Yes

 

[TC Diesel]

The VM 3.0 uses a NONE GP pump. So they are NOT compatible.

I'm with John on VM3.0 Failure rate VS 6.7 Cummins, its an OK pump if good lube/Clean fuel is used its entire life.

I simply do not believe that most Dealerships are trust worthy.

I've Never heard or seen CP4 failure take the engine out. Generally its fails so fast no internal engine damages occurs.

 

[TC Diesel]

jw/cotting, I'm relying because use kindly ask for all/any Comments welcome.

Why do people come to the web just looking for comforting comments or to just to have their ears tickled is beyond me.

In your 1st Post JW you wanted Info or something that produces results.

 

[Firedude]

The VM 3.0 uses a NONE GP pump. So they are NOT compatible.

I'm with John on VM3.0 Failure rate VS 6.7 Cummins, its an OK pump if good lube/Clean fuel is used its entire life.

I simply do not believe that most Dealerships are trust worthy.

I've Never heard or seen CP4 failure take the engine out. Generally its fails so fast no internal engine damages occurs.

I'm thinking that any particle that could possibly work its way past an injector into the cylinders would be too small to cause any significant damage.

 

[SanDiegoEcoDiesel]

The HPFP on my 2019 Classic Ram failed at 9400 miles. Dodge will be replacing the HPFP, fuel rails and the injectors.
The HPFP has been back ordered for a month and is now expected in 2 more weeks.
In no particular order here are my comments and concerns;
1. The dealer is awaiting delivery of a total of 4 HPFPs. Is it a generic problem with the HPFP?
2. They refuse to pull the heads to determine if any particulate matter from the destroyed HPFP made it past the injectors
3. The dealer does not have any loaners and Chrysler will only offer $40 a day towards a rental car

I am thinking of asking for a warranty on the engine as long as I own the truck.

Any comments/suggestions are welcomed
Jim

I have a 2018. Ecodiesel 1500

Needed new engine replacement @60k

Now just had HPFP failure and entire system replaced. $12k estimate

Have max care warranty.
Very disappointed in Dodge for this issue known issue . With no remdy.

I will update as I get information 3-16-22

 

[John Jensen]

Agree, it doesn't make sense, they have a recall to replace the CP4s in on the Cummins but not on the Ecodiesels.

 

[SanDiegoEcoDiesel]

Agree, it doesn't make sense, they have a recall to replace the CP4s in on the Cummins but not on the Ecodiesels.

 

[SanDiegoEcoDiesel]

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