New Tires

[John Jensen]

I've never heard anyone complain about the traction, noise, longevity or ride of a set of Michelin Defenders. We've had them on all of our family Rams for more than ten years and won't ever change. When we add a new Ram to the family, the first stop is at Discount Tire to have the new junk remove and a new set of Defenders installed - within the first 200 miles of ownership.

I'm only replying because you said you've "never heard".

I too was a believer in Michelin Defenders for many years. Then I had one separate its tread at 65mph. Caused $3600 in damage to my pristine Ford F350. Discount tried as hard as they could for reimbursement, Michelin refused any help because the tire was 5+ years old. I bought the tire (set of 4) new from Discount 4 years prior, and it only had 11,670 miles on it. The tire date stamp is what Michelin used, and they didn't care about the low miles.
I have never bought anything Michelin since.

You can no longer say, "I've never heard anyone complain about the traction, noise, longevity or ride of a set of Michelin Defenders."

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[TC Diesel]

OK.. I will share this at 1 Time I owned Store front, The Francise was connect to Tire warehouse and did 8 million a month in tire sales, SO I had access to all the warranties on those 8 million a Month, At that Time Toyo and Michelin had far less claims than all the other Tire manufactures.

 

[John Jensen]

But there are other good or really good tires that aren't as much.
I appreciate all of the feedback, but I'm probably not going with the Michelin tires.
I'm notoriously frugal when it's an option.

Yep! There are lots of other tires that are as good or better than Michelins. Most at less cost.
Just be sure you buy what's rated for how you will use them.

 

[TC Diesel]

Hmmm, Tire(s) go lame almost within 100 miles after mounting. Out of round, Ply, shoulder, etc, any maker can produce a bad tire, Toyo the CTS I had just suck, and I had the data to prove it, does that = all Toyo's are bad NO, what it did = Is Toyo's handling that exchanged to Michelin's.

 

[John Jensen]

Hmmm, Tire(s) go lame almost within 100 miles after mounting. Out of round, Ply, shoulder, etc, any maker can produce a bad tire, Toyo the CTS I had just suck, and I had the data to prove it, does that = all Toyo's are bad NO, what it did = Is Toyo's handling that exchanged to Michelin's.

I tried Toyos once, mainly because my high mileage neighbor swore by them. They were good as long as the pavement or dirt was dry but let it be wet and they were like ice skates.

 

[TC Diesel]

HT, AT, CT, ? I find it hard to believe you spec the wrong tire, John?

 

[John Jensen]

HT, AT, CT, ? I find it hard to believe you spec the wrong tire, John?

Thanks for the confidence. They were the right spec.
OEM, off a Rebel, 17" wheels and tires, Toyo, Open Country AT/II.

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[EcoDieselJolene]

If anyone is interested, I went with the Kumho Crugen HT51. They've only been on road, and only a few hundred miles, but so far so good.

HT tire with very high marks for on-road use, and pretty high marks for off-road use. And a 70,000 miles warranty.

Smooth, grippy, and quiet so far. If they go sideways, I'll post so others can avoid them.

 

[TC Diesel]

Nice.. and update Thanks.

 

[DATA]

Nice.. and update Thanks.

Good morning. Do you run just the stock Michelin defender tire or do you get the 10 ply. I will be traveling 85% highway. Thank you

 

[EcoDieselJolene]

Does anybody have a recommendation for tire pressure? These are 275 60 r20. I believe the door sticker recommends 39psi (not positive). Is there a sweet spot for fuel economy and comfort?

 

[TC Diesel]

Good morning. Do you run just the stock Michelin defender tire or do you get the 10 ply. I will be traveling 85% highway. Thank you

I just look at the tire MAX Load at What PSI... don't know what the ply is

 

[Augiedoggy]

Does anybody have a recommendation for tire pressure? These are 275 60 r20. I believe the door sticker recommends 39psi (not positive). Is there a sweet spot for fuel economy and comfort?

the door sticker was for the stock 4 ply goodyear tires.. its no good for aftermarket tires. The tire itself usually states the max pressure ... often people go like 5psi under that for comfort but it depends on use.

 

[EcoDieselJolene]

the door sticker was for the stock 4 ply goodyear tires.. its no good for aftermarket tires. The tire itself usually states the max pressure ... often people go like 5psi under that for comfort but it depends on use.

Good to know. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[sgibson001]

i have been looking at these https://simpletire.com/paid?v=1&tir...ailrunner-at&itemId=199216#SiteProductReviews billed as an 80/20 HWY/offroad i have no experiance with them other that reviews on line web/youtube

 

[EcoDieselJolene]

i have been looking at these https://simpletire.com/paid?v=1&tir...ailrunner-at&itemId=199216#SiteProductReviews billed as an 80/20 HWY/offroad i have no experiance with them other that reviews on line web/youtube

They look cool. I saw a review on them (maybe tire rack) that wasn't that good. Unless I'm thinking about something else.
If you get them, keep us posted, because that's a pretty good price if they match the hype and 55k warranty.

 

[Mesatoneman]

For what it’s worth, I just bought tires for my 2016 Bighorn about 7k miles ago this past fall. Lexani terrain beast at 275/60/20 for about $160 a tire from Walmart online. Did well with mild off- road runs and perform awesome in This years Pa. snow. There 119 load rated for my camper towing, quiet on dry roads and great on wet roads. Tread-ware is almost not noticeable. Mileage has not changed from previous original equipment tires. Best to ya and long live our EcoD’s