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Newbie questiin

shortyo

New Member
Jan 27, 2020
17
6
Truck Year
2017
Hey peeps, I appreciate the great info you all provide, thank you!
I have a question about the difficulty level of changing out the fuel rail pressure sensor in my 2017 ecodiesel. Specialty tools required?
I get the CEL constantly and the code is P0191. I clear it with my scanner and it comes right back on in minutes to hours.
I have put Dia-electric grease in the connectors at the sensor end with no improvement.
I have 123K km on the truck with no mods.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
Cheers
 

Tremper126

Moderator
Staff member
Feb 15, 2019
960
348
Truck Year
2014
I found this post that may help

 

TC Diesel

Well-Known Member
Jul 14, 2016
2,494
712
Truck Year
2015
You can replace the sensor if you like, I've dealt with codes for the pass 15 Years, 9 out 10 times its unrelated to the sensor. check all your wiring, I've even found poor ground to defective battery can cause this code.

I would disconnect the battery and Dia-electric every connection in the engine Bay, Parctice good engine hygiene or as the truck gets older more communication problems due to poor connection(s) will occur, In long term ownership I recommend Dia-electirc every connection from Head lamps to tail lights.

Remove the sound foam and CP4 cover and store-away.
 

shortyo

New Member
Jan 27, 2020
17
6
Truck Year
2017
I found this post that may help

Thanks a Million!
 

shortyo

New Member
Jan 27, 2020
17
6
Truck Year
2017
You can replace the sensor if you like, I've dealt with codes for the pass 15 Years, 9 out 10 times its unrelated to the sensor. check all your wiring, I've even found poor ground to defective battery can cause this code.

I would disconnect the battery and Dia-electric every connection in the engine Bay, Parctice good engine hygiene or as the truck gets older more communication problems due to poor connection(s) will occur, In long term ownership I recommend Dia-electirc every connection from Head lamps to tail lights.

Remove the sound foam and CP4 cover and store-away.
Thank you for your help, I will get that done as soon as the weather breaks!
 

Milvetmac

Member
Mar 25, 2020
69
12
Truck Year
2014
You can replace the sensor if you like, I've dealt with codes for the pass 15 Years, 9 out 10 times its unrelated to the sensor. check all your wiring, I've even found poor ground to defective battery can cause this code.

I would disconnect the battery and Dia-electric every connection in the engine Bay, Parctice good engine hygiene or as the truck gets older more communication problems due to poor connection(s) will occur, In long term ownership I recommend Dia-electirc every connection from Head lamps to tail lights.

Remove the sound foam and CP4 cover and store-away.
Any particular reasoning behind removing the cover and foam? I have read some people stating it is part of the design to help maintain a proper heat range for the egr and injector rails... I am by no means a mechanic but I live in commiefornia and am not concerned with freezing temps so why would I wa t to keep it hotter than it needs to be?! I’m installing exhaust tomorrow and some heat shielding so I was planning on pulling all that out at the same time
 

TC Diesel

Well-Known Member
Jul 14, 2016
2,494
712
Truck Year
2015
Its all about sound, HPCR life is determine by lubrication and Temp, Remove it all, and the Pump Cover...Plus its always in the way, it attracts rodents. The facts are America does NOT practice good engine Hygiene...another myth if the engine gets wet it won't start LMBO on that one.
 

Milvetmac

Member
Mar 25, 2020
69
12
Truck Year
2014
Awesome thanks for the info, it’s my first diesel... if you don’t mind, do you have any “engine hygiene “ recommendations? I run T6 rotella with afe oil/ k&n fuel filters and change them all out every 5k miles. Afe dry filter gets cleaned if it’s dirty or every 8k miles whichever comes first, XDP fuel additive and XDP oil additive.
 

TC Diesel

Well-Known Member
Jul 14, 2016
2,494
712
Truck Year
2015
I would use a Better Fuel Filter and change at 10/15K miles, IMO and the experts at the Local refinery (Flint Hills) Recommended NO additives, Keep in mind that MN has Mandatory Bio-DsL.

Dia-electric every connection on the Vehicle (If intending for/on long term ownership) and keep that engine clean.

Upgrade your Foot learn how to roll into a DsL Power curve, DO NOT dart drive. I have test driven some owners that use 80-90% TPS at every stoplight just to back off to 50-60% for legal speed , this creates soot, adds wear to the rotating -mass and will lower MPG.
 
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Milvetmac

Member
Mar 25, 2020
69
12
Truck Year
2014
I would use a Better Fuel Filter and change at 10/15K miles, IMO and the experts at the Local refinery (Flint Hills) Recommended NO additives, Keep in mind that MN has Mandatory Bio-DsL.

Dia-electric every connection on the Vehicle (If intending for/on long term ownership) and keep that engine clean.

Upgrade your Foot learn how to roll into a DsL Power curve, DO NOT dart drive. I have test driven some owners that use 80-90% TPS at every stoplight just to back off to 50-60% for legal speed , this creates soot, adds wear to the rotating -mass and will lower MPG.
Thanks a lot! I appreciate it 🍻
 

shortyo

New Member
Jan 27, 2020
17
6
Truck Year
2017
Update:
I bought a Pedal Commander and it made the CEL stay off for quite a while, I was having the fuel rail pressure sensor code coming up. It would still come on but much much less. What an awesome difference it made in the fuel pedal lag that I was experiencing!!! I highly recommend PC for the ecodiesel!!! It was just kind of a fluke that it helped with the CEL not coming on...
Anyway, I had the fuel rail pressure sensor A replaced because I had already purchased it, and a new pressure relief valve put in and no more CEL!!!
I have about 3500km driving on it after the new parts and so far so good!
Thanks for all of the invaluable advice!!!
 
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