3.0 eco deisel engine failure

[debbiemike]

So we lost our engine 2 weeks ago . It only had 66,000 miles on it. We were trying to find an engine and they told us there are 800 of these engines on backorder. We were forced to trade it in. Looking to join a class action suit related to these engines. Anyone have info on this?

 

[autoX]

Why not look into a good/used motor? https://www.car-part.com/

 

[ramm440]

What year Ram? Got me worried after reading of so many major engine failures.

 

[debbiemike]

Why not look into a good/used motor? https://www.car-part.com/

Again, out of pocket expense for the same engine with same issues after 60,000 miles.

 

[debbiemike]

What year Ram? Got me worried after reading of so many major engine failures.

2016

 

[mrdiesel]

Have you called a dealer? I ordered a few weeks ago and had it in less than a week. Where are you located

 

[debbiemike]

Have you called a dealer? I ordered a few weeks ago and had it in less than a week. Where are you located

Yes, they couldn't get one. We are in Pennsylvania.

 

[mrdiesel]

Yes, they couldn't get one. We are in Pennsylvania.

Call them again tomorrow and check i can help you with part # if you need some dealers where telling people bad information because they where looking up the wrong number

 

[autoX]

Blown engines happen, time to fix it. That's motoring 101. Class action suits etc nothing but aggravation and noise.
Why is it that when $hit happens it's supposed to be someone else's problem??
Your problem started with buying given the terms (no warranty etc). My truck blew at 30K miles!
And in Canada the dealers are pretty much full-stop crooks. Even extended warranties are a crap-shoot.

It's true in the US supply of motors is better than up here. My only option was a used engine, weighed as better than trading in. My theory, the failed motors are caused by chronically clogged DPF. I would check that out when reinstalling. I went full delete and it's been great so far, very happy.

 

[SilentSam]

Blown engines happen, time to fix it. That's motoring 101. Class action suits etc nothing but aggravation and noise.
Why is it that when $hit happens it's supposed to be someone else's problem??
Your problem started with buying given the terms (no warranty etc). My truck blew at 30K miles!
And in Canada the dealers are pretty much full-stop crooks. Even extended warranties are a crap-shoot.

It's true in the US supply of motors is better than up here. My only option was a used engine, weighed as better than trading in. My theory, the failed motors are caused by chronically clogged DPF. I would check that out when reinstalling. I went full delete and it's been great so far, very happy.

Are you in Alberta by any chance?

 

[Doyle Boyer]

Why not look into a good/used motor? https://www.car-part.com/

You can't specify the engine on their order site

 

[autoX]

The website does allow an engine selection button after model etc

 

[scease]

So we lost our engine 2 weeks ago . It only had 66,000 miles on it. We were trying to find an engine and they told us there are 800 of these engines on backorder. We were forced to trade it in. Looking to join a class action suit related to these engines. Anyone have info on this?

I bought new engine for my 2016 3.0 eco diesel. The truck was stolen before the new engine was put in. It is at the shop still in the create.

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[Dragonsyt57]

So we lost our engine 2 weeks ago . It only had 66,000 miles on it. We were trying to find an engine and they told us there are 800 of these engines on backorder. We were forced to trade it in. Looking to join a class action suit related to these engines. Anyone have info on this?

if You find out about a law suit please let me know , this ecodiesel has been in the shop so many time for the same thing I think it should have fallen under Lemon Law

 

[Dragonsyt57]

I think Ram owes us all a BIG apology and give us all our money back!

 

[autoX]

The problem with ALL diesel motors starts with emissions law (EPA). Have to say diesels are pretty nasty oil burners.
Modern gas is much cleaner and simpler with just a single catalytic and a couple of O2 sensors.

Ok so engineers at Bosch build the impossible - 1. A particulate filter, 2. A "SCR" catalytic 3. DEF injection system with assorted ECU's, sensors and programming. FCA has the board room presentation, then their engineering goes on to mate that with a very good engine from VM to create the Eco-diesel. What could go wrong?

Well just like Range Rover and to some extent, VW and now Cummins, things def have gone sideways. So much so that diesels are essentially done for. The diesel specialists I talked to say the VM engine is reliable without the DPF/SCR system in place.

I pulled out my DPF from the store-room last night and looked at it. It was clean and had very minor flow drop/restriction. It weighs in at around 22lbs.
I'll look at the SCR next.

 

[TWFJR]

if You find out about a law suit please let me know , this ecodiesel has been in the shop so many time for the same thing I think it should have fallen under Lemon Law

In Texas, the Lemon Law requires one of two things to happen. 1) Truck must be less than 5 years old and still be under warranty, and the truck needs to have been back to service three times (Three service orders for the same problem). 2) Out of service for 30 days.

My 2022's front crankshaft seal is cracked and leaking. I understand the problem to be a worn crankshaft. Advice from https://www.ecodieselusa.com/ is to shut down the engine before it blows up. See the above link for more info. The link also has a couple of videos on the engine problem.

The more I look into this issue, the more I find that getting a new engine is months down the road. This alone qualifies me for the Texas Lemon Law. Ram service is trying to get a front crankshaft seal, and it has been 10 days since the service. If the crankshaft is causing the seal to fail, continuing to drive could blow the engine. Once the new seal fails, the Lemon Law kicks in. Also note that a new crankshaft is not an option. There are no crankshafts available. If service finds a bad crankshaft, they will order a new engine. The truck will be down for months, if not over a year.

We continue to drive the truck. When it blows, it will be time to lawyer up. In the meantime, Ram service will provide a rental. Looks like we will be driving a rental for a long time.

 

[mrdiesel]

In Texas, the Lemon Law requires one of two things to happen. 1) Truck must be less than 5 years old and still be under warranty, and the truck needs to have been back to service three times (Three service orders for the same problem). 2) Out of service for 30 days.

My 2022's front crankshaft seal is cracked and leaking. I understand the problem to be a worn crankshaft. Advice from https://www.ecodieselusa.com/ is to shut down the engine before it blows up. See the above link for more info. The link also has a couple of videos on the engine problem.

The more I look into this issue, the more I find that getting a new engine is months down the road. This alone qualifies me for the Texas Lemon Law. Ram service is trying to get a front crankshaft seal, and it has been 10 days since the service. If the crankshaft is causing the seal to fail, continuing to drive could blow the engine. Once the new seal fails, the Lemon Law kicks in. Also note that a new crankshaft is not an option. There are no crankshafts available. If service finds a bad crankshaft, they will order a new engine. The truck will be down for months, if not over a year.

We continue to drive the truck. When it blows, it will be time to lawyer up. In the meantime, Ram service will provide a rental. Looks like we will be driving a rental for a long time.

First off do some research on wreckless Randy before you take any advice about your truck from him he a known con man and hack. You have a gen 3 engine and you say your front crank seal is leaking? That doesn't sound like a work crankshaft.

 

[TWFJR]

First off do some research on wreckless Randy before you take any advice about your truck from him he a known con man and hack. You have a gen 3 engine and you say your front crank seal is leaking? That doesn't sound like a work crankshaft.

I thank you for the warning. I don't know you or who you call wreckless Randy. Please tell me about your credentials and why you suggest researching him. Lastly, the front crankshaft seal is defective or failed because of, what. I am seeing too many reports of Eco Diesel blown engines. What causes the Eco Diesel engine to blow?

 

[biodiesel]

What causes the Eco Diesel engine to blow?

The 2014 - 2019 EcoDiesel had assembly issues. You either get a good engine or you get a bad engine. Some people with good engines have reported over 400,000 miles on their engines. The bad engines typically fail before 75,000 miles. Hundreds of these engines were replaced under the 5 year/100,000-mile Powertrain Warranty. You either get a good one you or don't. Here's a list of some of the high mileage engines:

300,000 Mile Club
Andrew A. - 321,000 miles (engine and truck) - Still in Operation
Geno21 - 338,000 miles (engine, transmission, and truck) - Still in Operation

350,000 Mile Club
Another - 351,813 miles (engine and truck) - Traded
VernDiesel - 371,000 miles (engine only) - EGR Cooler/Head Gasket Failure

400,000 Mile Club
Ramdriver501 (truck #1) - 410,000 miles (engine and truck) - Totaled
VernDiesel - 423,000 miles (engine) - Cracked Head
RussellandCissy - 433,323 miles (engine and truck) - Still in Operation

450,000 Mile Club
James (non-forum member) - 452,000 miles (engine) - HPFP Failure
Tyler_R - 487,789 miles (engine and truck) - Still in Operation

500,000 Mile Club
Muzzerall - 517,403 miles (engine, transmission, and truck) - Unknown