Crankshaft positioning sensor and Tone Ring Failure on Eco diesel.

[Rick b1014]

Well driving 120 km/h and your truck cutting out then restarting is not good for the motor, fuel system, all the electrical etc. There should be no questions asked when having issues with this motor. FCA tried to pull the wool over every ones eyes and what else are the b.s about. I never had an issues until I had the EGR cooler changed. I dont even thin the inspected the intake or anything during the recall work. They did the repair in 1 hour on the egr

 

[biodiesel]

I dont even thin the inspected the intake or anything during the recall work. They did the repair in 1 hour on the egr

They were specific instructions for the recall:

"Replace the EGR cooler assembly ONLY. If Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) is illuminated, inspect vehicle for either or both P0299 and P2D2F DTCs. If present, perform section B. Intake Manifold Inspection and Pressure Test. Replace Intake Manifold, if perforation is identified using test procedure."

 

[TC Diesel]

Biodiesel , IMO its impossible for any 3.0VM COC DD plenum at 40K miles+ to pass any honorable Test..... My 2015 Was replace at 43K miles even with 10K foam cleanings.... of course, it passes the Vacuum Test, After I insisted that visual inspection be performed it was approved to be replace.

 

[Rick b1014]

Well my high pressure pump was shot and new fuel rails and injectors are needed. I inspected my high pressure fuel pump and it was spotless. So maybe I got lucky before she blew part. Anyways they are having problems with the pumps anyways on other trucks. So is $3100 a good price for a new pump and fuel rails installed ? Are there any other high pressure pumps you can run instead of the cp4 ?

 

[TC Diesel]

Not on the VM 3.0 that I'm aware of...I've had many 300k+ and a few 500K mile CP4s on my bench...all that made 500K miles had auxiliary filtration...it's the only way to protect any pump from multi uses of poor fuel or the even 1 time use of contaminated fuel.

 

[jdn112011]

Well my high pressure pump was shot and new fuel rails and injectors are needed. I inspected my high pressure fuel pump and it was spotless. So maybe I got lucky before she blew part. Anyways they are having problems with the pumps anyways on other trucks. So is $3100 a good price for a new pump and fuel rails installed ? Are there any other high pressure pumps you can run instead of the cp4 ?

No it's cp4.2 with hardened internals so less prone to failure, the pump is like 1700 or so, I was quoted 2500. So that price with rails is not bad. mine is getting noisier, can feel on the line to the rail it's banging fuel in so maybe cavitation occurring? And it will start squealing like losing prime if on the highway at like 1/8 tank. Fuel filter didn't help, quart of hot shot and getting into #2 region and off straight #1 winter diesel helped it for now. Honestly it's 7k for a brand new crate motor from ram I'm not going to throw 3k at a lone fuel pump with the miles and hours mine has.

 

[biodiesel]

Honestly it's 7k for a brand new crate motor from ram I'm not going to throw 3k at a lone fuel pump with the miles and hours mine has.

That's my philosophy, too.

 

[TC Diesel]

I've test many CP-1, 3,,4, 4.2, 6 Shafts there all 2+ - 2. Of 62 RW.. most of the time 62 dead on. RAM Cummins obviously had no trust in the CP4.2..Ram is replacing all 2019-20 6.7 Cummins with CP3 and all 2021+have CP3

 

[biodiesel]

I've test many CP-1, 3,,4, 4.2, 6 Shafts there all 2+ - 2. Of 62 RW.. most of the time 62 dead on. RAM Cummins obviously had no trust in the CP4.2..Ram is replacing all 2019-20 6.7 Cummins with CP3 and all 2021+have CP3

It would be interesting to know if it was Ram or Cummins who made the decision to go with the CP4 in the 2019 - 2020 trucks.

 

[TC Diesel]

Biodiesel...Yep...........and why Ram still allows it on VM products

 

[biodiesel]

Biodiesel...Yep...........and why Ram still allows it on VM products

I want to know if it was Ram who made the decision or Cummins who made the decision. Somebody decided to switch to the CP4. I'm guessing it was probably Ram in effort to save a few bucks.

 

[jdn112011]

That's my philosophy, too.

About 1600 idle, 3400 driving 154k and the only actual failure being the tone wheel I'm not complaining much but the cost effectiveness of Repair definitely goes out the window when the crate gives so much more bang for the buck. I wouldn't have much problem throwing a fresh motor at it knowing what I do after 7 years.

 

[Rick b1014]

I have 351,00 km on mine, always did maintenance maybe slacked with additives but always tried to run big name gas stations diesel in my truck, I did a lot of highway driving also.

 

[biodiesel]

About 1600 idle, 3400 driving 154k and the only actual failure being the tone wheel I'm not complaining much but the cost effectiveness of Repair definitely goes out the window when the crate gives so much more bang for the buck. I wouldn't have much problem throwing a fresh motor at it knowing what I do after 7 years.

The 2015 has 101,000 miles. I'm pretty hard on the truck, so I'm not disappointed.

We've had four issues with the 2015.

1) Clogged MAP sensor (31,000 miles) - replaced under warranty
2) EGR cooler leaking (42,000 miles) - replaced under warranty
3) Clogged DEF injector (65,000 miles) - replaced under warranty
4) Water pump leaking (93,000 miles) - replaced under warranty

Here are potential fixes to the above problems:

1) I now clean or replace the MAP sensor every 20,000 miles.
2) The truck now has the updated EGR cooler. The problem should be greatly improved.
3) I now use Platinum DEF. Deposits no longer accumulate on the injector nozzle
4) To be honest, I think the water pump was fine and the leak was coming from failed o-rings. It's possible that coolant becomes too acidic overtime and eats away at the o-rings. I now drain and fill the radiator with fresh coolant every 2 years or 20,000 miles, whichever comes first.

 

[biodiesel]

I have 351,00 km on mine, always did maintenance maybe slacked with additives but always tried to run big name gas stations diesel in my truck, I did a lot of highway driving also.

Keep up the good work! Here's the highest mileage EcoDiesel that I know of.

 

[TC Diesel]

Biodiesel enlighten all readers members That Platinum DEF is any other ratio other 32.5 Urea and 67.5 Deionized Water, The ISO Standard is connected to dispensing filling only the product is all the same. QC is the same cert on ALL API DEF.

I want Comparisons factual Data and lab Spec's reports... NO paste and copy Marketing. C'mon I know you that its BS marketing hype.

 

[biodiesel]

Biodiesel enlighten all readers members That Platinum DEF is any other ratio other 32.5 Urea and 67.5 Deionized Water, The ISO Standard is connected to dispensing filling only the product is all the same. QC is the same cert on ALL API DEF.

I want Comparisons factual Data and lab Spec's reports... NO paste and copy Marketing. C'mon I know you that its BS marketing hype.

Platinum is a synthetic urea (a more purified formula). People who have switched over to Platinum have stopped getting deposits. I only have real-world data to share. But don't take my word, there are others who have the same results:

"For those who think Peak BlueDEF Platinum is just a marketing gimmick here is my DEF injector at the 30,000 mile oil change after 10,000 miles running 100% Peak BlueDEF Platinum.

When I bought the truck I filled it up with standard Peak BlueDEF, then Peak released their BlueDEF Platinum and I filled it up with that when it needed to be refiled but it was diluted with the older BlueDEF when I pulled the DEF injector at 10,000 mile oil change and it was completely caked with crystalized DEF the entire inner cone was crystalized DEF as was the opening of the Diesel Exhaust Fluid canister.

At the 20,000 mile oil change I still was not at full 100% Peak BlueDEF Platinum but the DEF injector was half full of crystalized DEF after the 10,000 mile oil change run and the opening where the DEF injector plugs into the Diesel Exhaust Fluid canister had only a thin film of crystalized DEF build up around it.

I now have 100% Peak BlueDEF Platinum in the DEF tank and after the 30,000 mile oil change the DEF injector is nice and clean, I can say with real world use that Peak BlueDEF Platinum does work as advertised, I am not affiliated with Peak, I do not receive anything from peak, I have to buy the Peak BlueDEF Platinum at the local auto parts store just like everyone else.

Standard BlueDEF will crystalize and plug up the cone of the DEF injector and will also start to plug up the hole where the DEF injector plugs into the Diesel Exhaust Fluid canister.

The Peak BlueDEF Platinum works once you get all the old regular DEF out of the system and have it full of BlueDEF Platinum. Here is a photo of my DEF Injector."

 

[biodiesel]

 

[jdn112011]

The 2015 has 101,000 miles. I'm pretty hard on the truck, so I'm not disappointed.

We've had four issues with the 2015.

1) Clogged MAP sensor (31,000 miles) - replaced under warranty
2) EGR cooler leaking (42,000 miles) - replaced under warranty
3) Clogged DEF injector (65,000 miles) - replaced under warranty
4) Water pump leaking (93,000 miles) - replaced under warranty

Here are potential fixes to the above problems:

1) I now clean or replace the MAP sensor every 20,000 miles.
2) The truck now has the updated EGR cooler. The problem should be greatly improved.
3) I now use Platinum DEF. Deposits no longer accumulate on the injector nozzle
4) To be honest, I think the water pump was fine and the leak was coming from failed o-rings. It's possible that coolant becomes too acidic overtime and eats away at the o-rings. I now drain and fill the radiator with fresh coolant every 2 years or 20,000 miles, whichever comes first.

Absolutely Work them. Mine went on a diet about 80k so egr cooler can't leak from a box in storage dealer bugs me about open recalls for that and aem though gets a good chuckle.

After a year off heavy tow duty I finally had to see if old girl still had it. Miss the factory air suspension though.

 

[biodiesel]

Absolutely Work them.

It's funny you say that. It seems like the people who really work their trucks have fewer problems. That may not be true, but it sure seems that way.