How much have you spent outside of warranty? Everything you've listed has been covered under warranty.but so many recalls, it never ends. With an 'older', out of warranty truck, we've paid more than expected annually on maintenance and repairs, so that has definitely been frustrating. Will try to come back in a few days and say if any another work was necessary to get going again.
Also curious what you mean by unexpectedly high maintenance costs? 100$ oil change at 9k interval, and a 40$ fuel filter ~annual? Differentials, and well that's all. Other than getting screwed with diesel prices the actual maintenance costs are at or below normJust chiming in with our experience with needing the tone ring replaced. Our truck is a 2015 Ecodiesel with 144k miles. We were towing our trailer when suddenly we lurched during acceleration and got dash message about the Electric Throttle Control, the check engine light came on and we were in limp mode. Made it to a dealership 10 minutes up the highway, going about 45mph. Our codes were P016F and P0336. They replaced our fuel pressure regulator at no cost, saying it was covered under a recall warranty. But that didn't solve things. They said they'd need to pull the transmission and replace the tone ring, again covered under a recall warranty. We were able to pick up the truck and do some minimal in-town driving while waiting for the part (took a week). Before dropping the truck back off for the repair, we checked the codes again and this time saw P0336, P0087, P1292. Dealer is replacing the tone ring today. I asked if the other codes might need parts as well but my rep said the techs checked the codes but never said more to him, so I guess I'll find out if things are fully solved with the replacing of the tone ring. It's been a good truck for us (never has left us stranded, until this and thankfully it didn't totally die), but so many recalls, it never ends. With an 'older', out of warranty truck, we've paid more than expected annually on maintenance and repairs, so that has definitely been frustrating. Will try to come back in a few days and say if any another work was necessary to get going again.
Date | Mileage | Part Description | Part # | Cost |
02/11/21 | 92,313 miles | Water Pump | 68211202AB | Warranty |
08/10/21 | 96,304 miles | Front Shocks Rear Shocks Labor | Bilstein 24-187343 4600 series Bilstein 24-187350 4600 series | $204.00 per pair $152.00 per pair $280.00 |
09/01/21 | 97,036 miles | Lower Ball Joints Labor Wheel Alignment | N/A | $199.90 $211.46 $119.95 |
07/20/22 | 105,715 miles | Driver side CV Axle Labor | 68028398AC | $381.89 $211.80 |
Affirmative, same shit, so every 115k give or take you'll have a failure and have to split the transmissionBased on the title of this thread, I hope this is a good place for this question.
I had a new tone ring installed this Tuesday. My question is, does anyone know if the "new/replacement" tone ring is any different from the old? Has there been any discussion around this? Has RAM said anything about it?
Thanks
TC,C"mon John...all years are failing. It's the same European BS....
There are tone wheels with 400,000 miles with no issues. There are tone wheels that only lasted 70,000 miles. Clearly, there was a quality control issue (some good and some bad). I try not to worry about it too much. My next big trip will be 880 miles one way, and that's when I'll think more about it. Honestly, I think there's a higher engine failure rate than a tone wheel failure rate, lol.
Truck is a 2015 Eco diesel with a PPEI tune and full delete. I was coming out of Island Park, Idaho headed south toward home in eastern Idaho towing the camper and RZR in my usual train set up and my pickup just shut down, just barely got of the road. first thought was, it blew up at 120,000 miles. Could not really find anything wrong, no smoke, bad sounds or coolant or oil leaks. So I grabbed my Autel code reader and the code came up for crankshaft positioning sensor failure. long story short. there is a tone ring that is shaped like a shallow cup that fits between the flywheel and the crankshaft with a magnetic tape around the outside diameter that signals the positioning sensor. A piece of the tape about and 1/8 inch wide delaminated off the ring (plus there was cracks in the tape all the way around it), then struck the sensor and they were both wrecked. From FCA the sensor is $445.00 (PN# 68102341AA), the Ring is $150.00, dealer labor to pull the Transmission and install the parts is $950.00 dollars. You can do the math. But it runs now. The sensor from NAPA is $100.00.
Biodiesel, RPM, warping, Heat, vibrations, driving habits even the environment effects adhesives, So why use that design your going to have failures. and to top that transmission removal to replace a single part that should out live the engine by 10,000 years. If you removed a clog tone ring and hung it outside and returned 10,000 years later it would still be a clog tone ring, your adhesive (element) ring would be delaminated and laying on the ground.
When are you going to take off the blinders? Both you guys are awesome Members and citizens. and I aways enjoy our conversations because it's always just our views and if we lived in the same town, we would be having these discussions with Beer and Pizza.