It happened, my 2018 ecodiesel engine blown up

[Ecodiesel18]

My 2018 just suffered the cat eng fail at 35k. Wondering, shouldn't the on board computer track oil changes? I've kept them all up but at a few different places. So far no one has asked. The dealer is working on an estimate but spitballed 20k. It sounds like they might not dig too far into root cause, but suggests lower main bearing. Promising early interactions with Stellantis, but with uaw strike and comments above its clear there's no quick fix.

I worry about reliability of a replacement engine. Wondering if anyone has traded in with truck still in shop. I also see the hemi is going away next year. WTH?

Thanks
Andrew

The replacement engines also bad. as above allthe crankshafts are bad (metal or forged process). After 2 weeks after 5 months of waiting the replacement (2nd) engine failed. then I believe the 3rd possibly failed in the shop but not being clear with me. and now wait for weeks for the 3rd or 4th or something like that. To me the only solution to keep this is when Stelanits aknowledges these are all bad and engineer the Jeeps to fit the ecodiesel 3rd (last) generation that fixed the crankshaft issues and redesigned the engine for more reliability. But for now just keep waiting again. At least I have a loaner.

 

[spaside52]

Stellantis wouldn't cover cuz i was about 4 months past warrantee, even at 35 k miles. The dealer didn't have the record of the extended warrantee that gave me another year. These folks balked, had the dealer do a complete teardown, then finally approved the new engine. At first it was coming from Canada, then from 'overseas.' It finally arrived and was replaced last week. The invoice had the engine at $11.5k with a 1000 core credit. With labor total was $13.5. Apparently some sort of financial trickery. Engine # 5158048-AI. I was told it has 5 yrs and 100,000 miles that I haven't confirmed. Still two open recalls. Good luck all.

 

[RandyZinck]

new here.came to find any information on what to do.....seems I am not alone. 2019 Ram classic. Motor just blew at 128K. I kept my truck maintained to the highest degree, by myself. I kept the truck perfect. Rod through the block. It just started vibrating. By the time I had any idea there was a problem, the low oil light came on, started knocking then a quick Bang and she blew the rod right through the block. Had it towed to the dealership inj Parksville Canada where I live. They acted like they had never heard of the ecodiesel problem(lies) and then charged me $100 to tell me the motor was blown, even though I am very mechanical, I was the one who told them it was blown on the phone before I had it towed there. Now it is sitting in my yard. Went through the whole claim system, they said I was well over my warranty(28k) and they had no recalls for this issue, and that if I get it fixed and then something comes out later regarding them recalling this issue, that they would cut me a cheque. The estimate was for $28,000. Yes. $28 thousand. But there isn't any. He said could be 2 years. I asked if they were making any replacements and he said not at this time. I am going to go to the news to get this story out. I have seen 2 Hyundai issues for battery replacements in excess of $25-50k to fix, dealerships told the customers they were on the hook for it.Once it went onto the global tv air, the dealerships took cae of the customers. Lets see if ram wants to deal with the media. I don't know what else to do.I owe $35k on this truck. I bought it to last.I am a 35 year loyal Ram/Dodge owner. My 2005 Ram 3500 with Cummins got 750k before I sold it, still running with over 1 million kms....my 2005 mega cab with hemi got 450k...my 2019 ram classic 128k and now sits in my yard forever... An it means nothing to them So I just bought a Ford to replace it....this needs to get out. Any ideas please let me know

hondas are blowing up too

 

[biodiesel]

If anyone wants to sell their truck with a blown engine, let me know.

 

[TC Diesel]

2016 Ram Ecodiesel - auto parts - by owner - vehicle automotive sale - craigslist

2016 Ram 4x4 Ecodiesel with blown motor. 99,000 miles on truck. Truck is complete and in great shape, aside from engine. Not interested in parting out Will consider trade for older Toyota pickup....

roseburg.craigslist.org

 

[autoX]

new here.came to find any information on what to do.....seems I am not alone. 2019 Ram classic. Motor just blew at 128K. I kept my truck maintained to the highest degree, by myself. I kept the truck perfect. Rod through the block. It just started vibrating. By the time I had any idea there was a problem, the low oil light came on, started knocking then a quick Bang and she blew the rod right through the block. Had it towed to the dealership inj Parksville Canada where I live. They acted like they had never heard of the ecodiesel problem(lies) and then charged me $100 to tell me the motor was blown, even though I am very mechanical, I was the one who told them it was blown on the phone before I had it towed there. Now it is sitting in my yard. Went through the whole claim system, they said I was well over my warranty(28k) and they had no recalls for this issue, and that if I get it fixed and then something comes out later regarding them recalling this issue, that they would cut me a cheque. The estimate was for $28,000. Yes. $28 thousand. But there isn't any. He said could be 2 years. I asked if they were making any replacements and he said not at this time. I am going to go to the news to get this story out. I have seen 2 Hyundai issues for battery replacements in excess of $25-50k to fix, dealerships told the customers they were on the hook for it.Once it went onto the global tv air, the dealerships took cae of the customers. Lets see if ram wants to deal with the media. I don't know what else to do.I owe $35k on this truck. I bought it to last.I am a 35 year loyal Ram/Dodge owner. My 2005 Ram 3500 with Cummins got 750k before I sold it, still running with over 1 million kms....my 2005 mega cab with hemi got 450k...my 2019 ram classic 128k and now sits in my yard forever... An it means nothing to them So I just bought a Ford to replace it....this needs to get out. Any ideas please let me know

hondas are blowing up too

Hey Randy - PDR Diesel in Langley did a swap for me came out great. I found a good used motor up in Prince George and then Garrett did a full delete/tune. I am towing with it driving south now. It was $20K to fix it but we only had 50K kms on the truck! Runs so well now. No worries. PS: We live in Port Alberni.

 

[Ramsey#1]

It has to be a way to get a compensation from the manufacturer, they know about those engines blowing up.

I would check on your states lemon laws. Here in California they have 30 days to repair or you can get them to buy it back.

 

[RandyZinck]

unfortunately, I am in Canada ....

 

[RandyZinck]

Hey Randy - PDR Diesel in Langley did a swap for me came out great. I found a good used motor up in Prince George and then Garrett did a full delete/tune. I am towing with it driving south now. It was $20K to fix it but we only had 50K kms on the truck! Runs so well now. No worries. PS: We live in Port Alberni.

thank you!

 

[Ecodiesel18]

The replacement engines also bad. as above allthe crankshafts are bad (metal or forged process). After 2 weeks after 5 months of waiting the replacement (2nd) engine failed. then I believe the 3rd possibly failed in the shop but not being clear with me. and now wait for weeks for the 3rd or 4th or something like that. To me the only solution to keep this is when Stelanits aknowledges these are all bad and engineer the Jeeps to fit the ecodiesel 3rd (last) generation that fixed the crankshaft issues and redesigned the engine for more reliability. But for now just keep waiting again. At least I have a loaner.

As some have mentioned Jan 2024 Mopar has produce more ecodiesel engines for those who have failures or multiple failures. I finally got my 2018 jeep ecodiesel back from dealership today in Jan 2024. Just to review crank cracked 4/23- no engines until 9/23 (remanufactured non mopar but still under warranty) it failed 3 weeks later (was not put together and bottom end went bad again). Engine as with most people failed with perfect care and maintenance. At dealership 10/23-1/24. Software and battery replaced again fortunately all under warranty due to lengthy fix time and bringing back. Overall dealership has been good in end of the day as far as no fees out of my pocket. Waiting for VM/Mopar to get new engines was the issue. Hopefully everyone has a reliable motor now 2024 and never has another failure again. Thanks for all the advice. Keep bothering jeep cares than can do goodwill to save you some money but you have to stick with it often for months.

 

[Ecodiesel18]

The replacement engines also bad. as above allthe crankshafts are bad (metal or forged process). After 2 weeks after 5 months of waiting the replacement (2nd) engine failed. then I believe the 3rd possibly failed in the shop but not being clear with me. and now wait for weeks for the 3rd or 4th or something like that. To me the only solution to keep this is when Stelanits aknowledges these are all bad and engineer the Jeeps to fit the ecodiesel 3rd (last) generation that fixed the crankshaft issues and redesigned the engine for more reliability. But for now just keep waiting again. At least I have a loaner.

As some have mentioned Jan 2024 Mopar has produce more ecodiesel engines for those who have failures or multiple failures. I finally got my 2018 jeep ecodiesel back from dealership today in Jan 2024. Just to review crank cracked 4/23- no engines until 9/23 (remanufactured non mopar but still under warranty) it failed 3 weeks later (was not put together correctly and bottom end went bad again). Engine as with most people failed with perfect care and maintenance. At dealership 10/23-1/24. Software and battery replaced again fortunately all under warranty due to lengthy fix time and bringing back. Overall dealership has been good in end of the day as far as no fees out of my pocket. Waiting for VM/Mopar to get new engines was the issue. Hopefully everyone has a reliable motor now 2024 and never has another failure again. Thanks for all the advice. Keep bothering jeep cares than can do goodwill to save you some money but you have to stick with it often for months.

 

[Ecodiesel18]

As some have mentioned Jan 2024 Mopar has produce more ecodiesel engines for those who have failures or multiple failures. I finally got my 2018 jeep ecodiesel back from dealership today in Jan 2024. Just to review crank cracked 4/23- no engines until 9/23 (remanufactured non mopar but still under warranty) it failed 3 weeks later (was not put together correctly and bottom end went bad again). Engine as with most people failed with perfect care and maintenance. At dealership 10/23-1/24. Software and battery replaced again fortunately all under warranty due to lengthy fix time and bringing back. Overall dealership has been good in end of the day as far as no fees out of my pocket. Waiting for VM/Mopar to get new engines was the issue. Hopefully everyone has a reliable motor now 2024 and never has another failure again. Thanks for all the advice. Keep bothering jeep cares than can do goodwill to save you some money but you have to stick with it often for months.

 

[Ecodiesel18]

Sounds similar to mine everything you said. Hopefully not far from home. Mine was on way to work not a far trip thankfully . Class action has to be close. I am getting no where just waiting under warranty for replacement engine. No delivery date for engine.

As some have mentioned Jan 2024 Mopar has produce more ecodiesel engines for those who have failures or multiple failure. I finally got my 2018 jeep ecodiesel back from dealership today in Jan 2024. Just to review crank cracked 4/23- no engines until 9/23 (remanufactured non mopar but still under warranty) it failed 3 weeks later (was not put together and bottom end went bad again). Engine as with most people failed with perfect care and maintenance. At dealership 10/23-1/24. Software and battery replaced again fortunately all under warranty due to lengthy fix time and bringing back. Overall dealership has been good in end of the day as far as no fees out of my pocket. Waiting for VM/Mopar to get new engines was the issue. Hopefully everyone has a reliable motor now 2024 and never has another failure again. Thanks for all the advice. Keep bothering jeep cares than can do goodwill to save you some money but you have to stick with it often for months.

 

[debbiemike]

We all affected should get together and file a class action law suit. FCA is just making more extra money selling new engines instead of fixing the problem and sell a good quality reliable truck.

I agree. How do we file a class action suit? We are $26,000.00 in the hole from our truck failure!

 

[Roger K]

I agree. How do we file a class action suit? We are $26,000.00 in the hole from our truck failure!

 

[RikkiB]

Please keep me up to date with any class action suits also. We are here in Canada as well. My son bought his truck from a dealership and they didn’t disclose the engine was leaking oil badly and needed a new oil cooler replaced, which they did prior to the truck leaving the lot, but didn’t disclose any of those repairs . It wasn’t until it blew and I requested the original RO that we found any of this out. It blew at 134,000 Km. He only had it for 13,000 Km. They stuck him with a loan for $100,000+ then he had to pay for a $22,000+ engine. I don’t know if this oil
Issue that wasn’t disclosed played any part but it seems criminal all of this can happen and no one can be held responsible. At least had he known any of this info, he could have made an informed buy.
Thank you.
Rikki

 

[...a child of God]

Sad to say this, but the only way to not get it deep in the bunghole is to go all January 6th on them. It pains me to have to think like this but they are taking advantage of the situation to screw you over. So screw back.

 

[biodiesel]

Sad to say this, but the only way to not get it deep in the bunghole is to go all January 6th on them. It pains me to have to think like this but they are taking advantage of the situation to screw you over. So screw back.

Would "a child of God" say something like that? I thought the bible taught against retaliation?

 

[autoX]

Class action suits are started by law firms that can make a case to extract settlement $$ from large corporations. They are designed to pay the law firm fees, not the claimants. You'll see pittance paid in settlement funds.
Government agency actions, like EPA, that's a different deal. Then the company has to make things "right" or face further action, fines etc.

As a dealer, it's not criminal to fix a truck and sell it. If it had a leaking oil cooler, and that was repaired, there is no reason to disclose that normal repair work.

My theory - the crankshaft cannot tolerate twisting, caused by restriction in the exhaust stroke. The restriction either from the SCR/DEF or turbo somehow. I don't think it's the DPF. The crank "twist" causes bending, bearing load failure and in the case above outright cracking.
This engine issue is NOT limited to the Ecodiesel. It's happened with Range Rover too. The Td6's are splitting cranks and throwing rods and bearings too.

I took the advice of the diesel shop and did a delete. Unfortunately not sure what else can be done with the earlier engines. Drive longer distances if possible. Keep fresh DEF in there. And pray

 

[RikkiB]

Sad to say this, but the only way to not get it deep in the bunghole is to go all January 6th on them. It pains me to have to think like this but they are taking advantage of the situation to screw you over. So screw back.

Class action suits are started by law firms that can make a case to extract settlement $$ from large corporations. They are designed to pay the law firm fees, not the claimants. You'll see pittance paid in settlement funds.
Government agency actions, like EPA, that's a different deal. Then the company has to make things "right" or face further action, fines etc.

As a dealer, it's not criminal to fix a truck and sell it. If it had a leaking oil cooler, and that was repaired, there is no reason to disclose that normal repair work.

My theory - the crankshaft cannot tolerate twisting, caused by restriction in the exhaust stroke. The restriction either from the SCR/DEF or turbo somehow. I don't think it's the DPF. The crank "twist" causes bending, bearing load failure and in the case above outright cracking.
This engine issue is NOT limited to the Ecodiesel. It's happened with Range Rover too. The Td6's are splitting cranks and throwing rods and bearings too.

I took the advice of the diesel shop and did a delete. Unfortunately not sure what else can be done with the earlier engines. Drive longer distances if possible. Keep fresh DEF in there. And pray

I do know he’s done the delete. Thank you, I appreciate the information, I will pass it along.